Episode 22: Nina McConigley
We had a great time with Nina McConigley, author of the new novel How to Commit a Postcolonial Murder, which hits all the beats you want from a book where a character named Agatha Krishna says, “We blame the British.” Nina shared with us her thoughts on how colonialism divided not only countries but selves, and where characters (and real people) find themselves within those divides.
Episode 21: PEN/Bingham Award Winner Jared Lemus
We were fortunate to have Jared Lemus, author of the story collection Guatemalan Rhapsody, join us to discuss masculinity and empathy in fiction. Jared recently won the PEN/Robert W. Bingham Prize for debut story collection, and he was also once Nate’s co-worker. (Which is also a noteworthy achievement.)
Episode 20: John Sayles
We’re excited to welcome filmmaker and author John Sayles to the show. John spoke with us about his most recent novel, Crucible, which focuses on the impact that an egocentric automobile magnate’s uninformed plans has on the economy and other populations. Sounds vaguely familiar.
Episode 19: Rejection is Good! And you never read alone
So your manuscript was rejected by another publisher. Will you revise your work to meet the shifting whims of the marketplace, or hold steady to your uncompromising vision, bragging all the while about the rejections you’ve accumulated like tumbleweeds tangled in a barbed wire fence? Meanwhile, we also wonder if one can ever truly read a book alone, or if the various social contexts are inextricable from that experience, like tumbleweeds tangled in a barbed wire fence.
Episode 18: Author Tom Ryan and Movies Being Too Literal
Will Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, Encyclopedia Brown, or any other fictional teen sleuths ever grow up? We spoke with Tom Ryan, whose novel We Had a Hunch throws adult versions of kid detectives into harrowing grown-up situations, like hunting a serial killer or facing middle age. Plus: are contemporary works of art too literal? It’s no fun if a novel or a movie tells to your face its theme and meaning. That’s the message of our movie, Movies Should Not Tell You Their Meaning.
Episode 17: Interpretation and Ecstasy
We have too many reviews and not enough interpretive criticism. At least, that’s what Nathan says, and it seems to hold water. In our second segment, we engage with Ivy Pochoda’s latest novel, Ecstasy, which itself engages with the classical play The Bacchae. A cult of drunken women who kill the men? Sure, sounds cool.
Episode 16: Literature for Aliens, and How to Be Perfect
Our hosts have ideas about what sort of books should have been included on the Voyager spacecraft, to support its heartwarming mission of spreading humanity to the stars. Would you have just sent the aliens your favorite book? Because maybe they don’t have the context to understand what a “Da Vinci Code” even is. And speaking of putting a lot of pressure on a book, TV creator Michael Schur’s How to Be Perfect put that pressure on itself. Philosophical ethics never sounded so good.
Episode 15: Chris Hauty, author of Dead Ringer, and Books as (bad) gifts
Author and screenwriter Chris Hauty joined us to discuss his latest thriller, Dead Ringer, about a JFK assassination conspiracy—and if you think you’ve heard it all on this topic, we assure you this novel will take you somewhere unexpected. Then, we ponder why books are such popular gifts when they’re actually rather fraught as an item to give someone else.
Bonus Episode: We Hate ‘Best Books’ Lists. Plus: Our 2025 ‘Best Books’ List!
All those “best books of the year” lists are bogus marketing material that flatten the distinct reading experience that an individual brings to a book they interact with. We tore apart the very concept of those lists in this episode. Then we shared our own Best Books list! Hypocrisy, or the nuanced ability to delicately balance competing perspectives? Eh.
Episode 13: Short Stories We Love, Part 2
We bring you more Short Stories We Love, the results of Nathan scouring the literary magazine world to find writers who deserve a closer look. In this episode, Joey Hedger brings us a tale of cancer and terrible liqueur; Glenn Clifton joins from Canada with a story of viral infamy and relationships; and Patricia Q. Bidar shares an ode to her hometown that also features a massive explosion.